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	<title>Comments on: Riding the Spine into a bit of Trouble</title>
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	<description>An on/off-road bike journey down the continental divide from the top of Alaska to the tip of South America</description>
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		<title>By: bikerdude</title>
		<link>http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/journey/uncategorized/riding-the-spine-into-a-bit-of-trouble/comment-page-1#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>bikerdude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real crime here is that you guys rode the canyon and just had to brag about it by posting it on your blog.....next time you do it, keep it to yourselves and just have a good laugh about it over some beers!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real crime here is that you guys rode the canyon and just had to brag about it by posting it on your blog&#8230;..next time you do it, keep it to yourselves and just have a good laugh about it over some beers!!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, seems like the regulations are a little picky, but I know from experience whenever I venture out into the great outdoors, it is always wise to research and rules and regulations...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, seems like the regulations are a little picky, but I know from experience whenever I venture out into the great outdoors, it is always wise to research and rules and regulations&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/journey/uncategorized/riding-the-spine-into-a-bit-of-trouble/comment-page-1#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, that&#039;s ridiculous!!! If I were you guys, I would hire a lawyer and fight it.... man, I just think they get a little carried away.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, that&#8217;s ridiculous!!! If I were you guys, I would hire a lawyer and fight it&#8230;. man, I just think they get a little carried away&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: why?</title>
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		<dc:creator>why?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with eric,  everyone seems to forget about the wolf you had killed in alaska because of this stupid trip.  Do research before you have ideas, and then think about wether the idea is a good one or not.  Their are almost 7 billion people worldwide, there are less then 120,00o Grey wolves worldwide, and now one is dead beacuse one of 7 billion had a dumb idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with eric,  everyone seems to forget about the wolf you had killed in alaska because of this stupid trip.  Do research before you have ideas, and then think about wether the idea is a good one or not.  Their are almost 7 billion people worldwide, there are less then 120,00o Grey wolves worldwide, and now one is dead beacuse one of 7 billion had a dumb idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not daring you are selfish. You should be banned from UCI and Granny Gear events for 5 years as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not daring you are selfish. You should be banned from UCI and Granny Gear events for 5 years as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Backcountry.com: The Goat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Banned From National Parks for 5 Years</title>
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		<dc:creator>Backcountry.com: The Goat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Banned From National Parks for 5 Years</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is that they probably would have gotten away with it if they hadn’t posted pictures and stories about their illegal ride on their blog. After paying a $500 fine and learning self-defense in jail for two days, they had to post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is that they probably would have gotten away with it if they hadn’t posted pictures and stories about their illegal ride on their blog. After paying a $500 fine and learning self-defense in jail for two days, they had to post [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bicycling is not allowed on any rim hiking trails or on any trail below the rim, according to the Grand Canyon National Park management plan.&quot;

So it&#039;s better to bicycle OFF of the trails, where the cryptobiotic soil and untouched ground is? I don&#039;t think so. 

As for the 48 hrs in jail, luckily you&#039;re young enough to shrug it off as a learning experience, and now you have a story that will last you a lifetime.

And how about those guys who had to pay $240 for the helicopter evac out of the park, when they weren&#039;t injured and didn&#039;t need rescuing? Hell, the tours in Vegas will run you $400 and up, sounds like a bargain, even though the park service was using the most expensive means to remove them. Maybe they should airlift drug dealers to the county lockup, and charge them the airlift fee, too? How many hikers get hurt each year and need rescuing? Dozens and dozens, but they still let em all keep traipsing their dumb asses down there anyway. Well yeah, you gotta get all the money you can out of em. Stop the hiking and the park will dry up. Why not though, cause hiking leads to some people getting lost and or hurt? You have to protect people from themselves, right?


It&#039;s interesting to see how the mtb ethics pretty much goes completely against the rules of the National Park Service. 

1. STAY ON DESIGNATED TRAILS to avoid trampling native vegetation and fragile desert soil. 

2. SHOW COURTESY AND RESPECT TO ALL TRAIL USERS.  We’re all members of the trail family seeking quality experiences. We must learn to share.  Our motivations are not different than those of other trail users regardless of our mode of travel.  Show concern for a clean,  quiet backcountry experience.
Keep the trails as natural as possible.

3. YIELD THE RIGHT OF WAY TO OTHER NON-MOTORIZED RECREATIONISTS,  and allow adequate room for motorized vehicles that may need to pass you.

4. SLOW DOWN AND USE CAUTION when approaching or overtaking others and make your presence known well in advance.

5. MAINTAIN CONTROL of your bike at all times. 

6. DO NOT DISTURB wildlife or livestock. 

7. DO NOT LITTER. Pack out what you pack in, and pack out more than your share whenever possible. 

8. RESPECT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, including trail use signs, no trespassing signs, and leave gates as you found them. 

9. BE SELF-SUFFICIENT. Destination and travel speed will be determined by your ability, equipment, terrain, and the present and potential weather conditions. 

10. DO NOT TRAVEL SOLO when bike packing in remote areas. Leave word of your destination and when you plan to return. 

12. USE APPROPRIATE SAFETY EQUIPMENT. 

Sorry for the rant, but this all just makes me sick. If these guys had driven the whole way in a 2 mpg Ford Excursion Expedition or whatever, they&#039;d have never raised a single eyebrow, as they&#039;d be JUST LIKE the other 25 million herd-minded sheep in this country. Oy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bicycling is not allowed on any rim hiking trails or on any trail below the rim, according to the Grand Canyon National Park management plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s better to bicycle OFF of the trails, where the cryptobiotic soil and untouched ground is? I don&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>As for the 48 hrs in jail, luckily you&#8217;re young enough to shrug it off as a learning experience, and now you have a story that will last you a lifetime.</p>
<p>And how about those guys who had to pay $240 for the helicopter evac out of the park, when they weren&#8217;t injured and didn&#8217;t need rescuing? Hell, the tours in Vegas will run you $400 and up, sounds like a bargain, even though the park service was using the most expensive means to remove them. Maybe they should airlift drug dealers to the county lockup, and charge them the airlift fee, too? How many hikers get hurt each year and need rescuing? Dozens and dozens, but they still let em all keep traipsing their dumb asses down there anyway. Well yeah, you gotta get all the money you can out of em. Stop the hiking and the park will dry up. Why not though, cause hiking leads to some people getting lost and or hurt? You have to protect people from themselves, right?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see how the mtb ethics pretty much goes completely against the rules of the National Park Service. </p>
<p>1. STAY ON DESIGNATED TRAILS to avoid trampling native vegetation and fragile desert soil. </p>
<p>2. SHOW COURTESY AND RESPECT TO ALL TRAIL USERS.  We’re all members of the trail family seeking quality experiences. We must learn to share.  Our motivations are not different than those of other trail users regardless of our mode of travel.  Show concern for a clean,  quiet backcountry experience.<br />
Keep the trails as natural as possible.</p>
<p>3. YIELD THE RIGHT OF WAY TO OTHER NON-MOTORIZED RECREATIONISTS,  and allow adequate room for motorized vehicles that may need to pass you.</p>
<p>4. SLOW DOWN AND USE CAUTION when approaching or overtaking others and make your presence known well in advance.</p>
<p>5. MAINTAIN CONTROL of your bike at all times. </p>
<p>6. DO NOT DISTURB wildlife or livestock. </p>
<p>7. DO NOT LITTER. Pack out what you pack in, and pack out more than your share whenever possible. </p>
<p>8. RESPECT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, including trail use signs, no trespassing signs, and leave gates as you found them. </p>
<p>9. BE SELF-SUFFICIENT. Destination and travel speed will be determined by your ability, equipment, terrain, and the present and potential weather conditions. </p>
<p>10. DO NOT TRAVEL SOLO when bike packing in remote areas. Leave word of your destination and when you plan to return. </p>
<p>12. USE APPROPRIATE SAFETY EQUIPMENT. </p>
<p>Sorry for the rant, but this all just makes me sick. If these guys had driven the whole way in a 2 mpg Ford Excursion Expedition or whatever, they&#8217;d have never raised a single eyebrow, as they&#8217;d be JUST LIKE the other 25 million herd-minded sheep in this country. Oy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooner S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooner S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeeze, duders.  People read an AP article and freak straight the f#$k out.

Miss ya guys.  Hope yer not takin&#039; the soapboxers too personally or gettin any more like bitter old men.  Use this space to relax.

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aaaaahhhhhhh....















There.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeeze, duders.  People read an AP article and freak straight the f#$k out.</p>
<p>Miss ya guys.  Hope yer not takin&#8217; the soapboxers too personally or gettin any more like bitter old men.  Use this space to relax.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>aaaaahhhhhhh&#8230;.</p>
<p>There.</p>
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		<title>By: sausage</title>
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		<dc:creator>sausage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dirtchurch.com/weblog/2007/03/we_wanna_be_fre.html#comment-62460588</description>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also think it is egotistical and &#039;asking for it&#039; to post a video and diary on the internet for all to see bragging about it. you guys got everything you deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also think it is egotistical and &#8216;asking for it&#8217; to post a video and diary on the internet for all to see bragging about it. you guys got everything you deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that endangering hikers by riding skinny trails in a National Park is rude, disrespectful and trashy. i dont care how fat they are. the earth is all of ours and we have to respect everyones rights to enjoy it. what makes you more important than hikers? i think it is arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that endangering hikers by riding skinny trails in a National Park is rude, disrespectful and trashy. i dont care how fat they are. the earth is all of ours and we have to respect everyones rights to enjoy it. what makes you more important than hikers? i think it is arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregorio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregorio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The canyon was just a simple challenge- now get through the Mexican Border without getting shot!!!

Best wishes: 


http://www.azstarnet.com/news/171899.php
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The canyon was just a simple challenge- now get through the Mexican Border without getting shot!!!</p>
<p>Best wishes: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.azstarnet.com/news/171899.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.azstarnet.com/news/171899.php</a><br />
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